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Numb patch on knee after knee replacement

1/24/2018

128 Comments

 
Nearly every patient will experience some degree of permanent numbness on the lateral (outside) side of the knee after knee replacement surgery. This is anticipated. It is so common, most surgeons do not discuss this with their patients prior to surgery. It is not a complication, but a necessary side-effect of achieving a safe exposure to perform knee replacement surgery. 

What is going on?

There are cutaneous (skin) nerves that cross the front of the knee from the inside (medial) to the outside (lateral). A knee replacement incision is made longitudinally over the front (anterior) of the knee. These small nerves must be cut to allow deeper exposure. Other than a numb patch on the outside of the knee, there is generally no other negative effect. 

Once rehabilitated, patients rarely even mention this finding. Most are just thrilled their arthritic pain is gone and they are back to their desired activities again. 
Sketch of right knee
Sketch of right knee viewed from the front
Sketch showing cutaneous nerve branches in the knee
Sketch of right knee showing cutaneous (skin) nerve branches crossing anteriorly (in the front)
Anterior incision crosses cutaneous nerve branches during total knee replacement surgery
Anterior incision crosses the cutaneous nerve branches in the front of the knee
Sketch showing numb patch on the lateral aspect of the knee after knee replacement surgery
Numb patch on the lateral aspect of the knee after knee replacement surgery is common and expected
128 Comments
John Sciarrino link
12/2/2019 03:38:53 pm

Thanks for the information about the nerves in my knee. You showed me how they run across my knee and how making a insicion for knee surgery cuts them so explaining the numbness on the outside part of my knee insicion. Thanks

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
12/2/2019 03:41:55 pm

This question comes up quite frequently. I am glad you found my explanation helpful!

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Josephine peros
7/19/2020 09:06:10 am

Will the numbness disappear over time
Should cold compresses be put

Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
7/26/2020 08:59:43 am

@Josephine Peros - Most people report the numbness improves over time, but I would not expect it to completely resolve.

Lucille Ettore link
1/12/2022 07:24:22 am

Thanks SO much especially for the drawings!! Any other tidbits? Like why it might still buckle

Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
1/22/2022 01:28:09 pm

@Lucille

Buckling of the knee (with or without knee replacement) can occur due to pain briefly inhibiting the quadriceps muscles, instability, weakness, fatigue, or intra-articular mechanical obstruction. Weakness and pain should improve over time. Instability or mechanical obstruction could require surgery. It is important to follow-up with your surgeon for some guidance as to the underlying issue in your particular knee. There is no relation to the expected numb patch on the lateral aspect of your knee following knee replacement, however.

Gary Tondorfdick
5/24/2022 10:02:34 pm

Hi Dr. Gorczynski,
Thanks for your helpful explanation. I only wish now after the fact that my surgeon would have taken the time to explain these issues and symptoms to me.
I asked many questions as an informed and interested patient.
Not a good feeling.
Gary

Stephanie Cox
7/18/2021 10:47:28 pm

I had a total knee replacement in my right knee. I have numbness on the inside of my leg from the bend of my knee to right above my ankle. However it’s just on the left. I’m post op 6 weeks. I’m recovering well. When my leg swells from sitting to long the numbness gets worse… I’m worried it won’t ever go away.

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
7/28/2021 08:42:45 pm

This sounds like the numbness is within the saphenous nerve distribution. This is unusual. If you had severe varus malalignment (bowleggedness) preoperatively that was corrected at the time of surgery, this nerve could have been stretched and may recover with time. I recommend you discuss this situation with your surgeon.

LeeRoy salinas
1/10/2022 08:43:36 am

Thank you for the info.

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Kathie link
1/22/2020 02:17:51 pm

I too wondered about the lateral numbness in my knee after TKR eight weeks ago. Thank you.

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
2/8/2020 06:20:38 pm

You're welcome. It is nice when things make sense.

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Lisa B link
2/7/2020 10:49:49 pm

It's been 10 weeks since my tkr. The left side of my knee has been numb ever since the tkr. Kind of a large section. Also, my knee is still very swollen and red.
Is this normal?

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
2/8/2020 06:24:26 pm

As you read in the preceding article, numbness is not only common, but it is an expected, unavoidable issue based on the anatomy.

Some swelling, warmth and redness is normal at this stage, but it is expected to be getting better, not worse by now.

https://www.yourorthomd.com/orthopedic-knowledge/skin-warmth-after-total-knee-replacement

If these symptoms are getting worse, it is important that your orthopedic surgeon evaluate your knee in the office.

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Randy Lara
12/4/2020 06:19:36 pm

I recently had knee replacement on Oct 28,2020. Im having numbness in my left foot and toes and my left hand. Im also not abke to bend my knee completely back.Its stiff.In therapy im abke to complete all required task just not the bending of the knee.

Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
12/7/2020 08:55:54 pm

I can not relate hand numbness to your knee replacement, other than perhaps if an IV was placed into your hand during the surgery? It is not normal to experience numbness in your foot either. This needs to be evaluated by your surgeon ASAP.

Knee stiffness is normal and you need to work hard to rehabilitate your knee. I explain how to do this properly throughout this website. Check out the ALL ARTICLES section from the menu above.

Lynda
5/17/2020 12:39:21 am

I want
You to know that I considered myself in the failed
Knee surgery group at 10 weeks. The pain swelling was unreal. NO WORRIES! I am a year out and yes I have some
Numbness and such and some crunching here and there but I can walk without pain. The claims that someone was back in the game is eight weeks is misleading. You’ll be walking pretty well by then but it will take months. I am so glad I did it but now with number two pending.... I’m going to give myself the time I need to recover. This is Major surgery and recovery is a $&$&&@! But all worth it in the end. Be kind to yourself and take everyday in stride. You’ll get there. PT is ESSENTIAL as is daily exercises! Best of luck

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Sandy
9/29/2020 11:04:31 am

I needed to read this. I am just shy of 10 weeks post TKTS and also considering myself in the failed group. I have very good ROM but swelling and pretty severe tightness. Hoping for better days ahead.

Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
9/29/2020 07:27:26 pm

In my experience, 10 weeks post-op is too soon to give up. Spend time stretching every day as I describe throughout this website. Use ice/anti-inflammatory medications, if you can tolerate them. Be confident that your body will heal, and with time the inflammation, swelling, and pain will subside. The odds are dramatically in your favor.

Jo-Ann link
11/18/2020 05:49:11 am

Thank you. i thought i was crazy. i am 12 weeks out and still have alot of pain.

Tamara L Bowerman link
5/15/2021 03:57:36 am

Hi Lisa - thanks for your question, my knee sounds like we could be twins - still swollen-large numb spot. Im 5 weeks out since my TKR have still have pain. It sure does get frustrating, doesnt it!!!!! I wish the recovery time and symptoms would have been explained more in detail before the surgery. Get well soon :)

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
5/26/2021 10:30:36 pm

The purpose of this website is to provide as much information and support to patients considering/recovering from common orthopedic operations.

Catherine Hughes link
6/7/2021 04:59:45 pm

Found this forum, so great!!
I’ve been on this journey and have to say it’s the hardest most depressing thing I’ve ever done!!
Reading all the stories I’ve been so relieved as I think I’m on track now with my recovery
My biggest fear was stiff knee syndrome thinking I haven’t done enough!!
I wish all of you the best in your recovery and take care get better
Xxx

H higginson
12/16/2021 01:30:06 pm

I had mine done 9 weeks I'm walking very well numbness on my knee no pain from operation

Anthony J.
3/24/2020 10:26:28 am

Is there anything I can do to help in recovering from this numbness? Like for instance massaging the area, applying heat or cold? Or am I just going to have to get used to it?

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
3/24/2020 04:28:05 pm

Gentle massage is fine, but you will gradually get used to it with time.

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Carol
6/14/2020 09:56:11 am

I understand the numbness is to be expected, but when we walk the numbness starts at the outside of the knee and is all the way up the thigh by the time we get back after 2 miles. It will be 2 years the end of July since tkr. Is this normal? Range of motion is normal with other leg this is my biggest complaint. Thanks for advice.

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
6/26/2020 07:06:04 am

If you have increasing numbness in your thigh with walking, I would be concerned about spinal stenosis. This is where the nerves in your back become pinched as the spinal canal gradually squeezes down over decades. This is typically made worse with walking or standing and better when you sit. I recommend you get checked out by an orthopedic surgeon. Your history is classic for this diagnosis.

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Magali Rivera link
6/27/2020 11:21:59 pm

I still have numbness of my knee after 2 years & 2 month now and pain of my knee replacement what will I do to take care of my knee replavements .....reply nenalinda0216@yahoo.com thank you

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Christopher Gorczynski link
6/28/2020 12:55:36 am

As I illustrated in this article, a numb patch on the lateral aspect of the knee is normal and anticipated after knee replacement surgery. It is usually permanent, though it often becomes less obvious over time as your brain adjusts to the new normal. This does not require treatment, and does not indicate a problem. If you are having pain, you should be evaluated by an orthopedic surgeon with a physical examination and x-rays.

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Ann conroy
1/30/2021 03:41:14 pm

Hi I had a half knee replacement 6 months while I’d very little pain and I can walk for miles I find I can’t knee down on the knee

Peggy Aiello
7/7/2020 09:17:24 pm

My knee replacement has been 2 years and 3 months. I’ve lived with the numbness around my knee, but recently slipped and landed on that knee. I’ve noticed that now, if I’m on my feet for awhile, I get numbness on the outside of my thigh just above that knee. I only skinned m6 knee and there was minor swelling under the abrasion. Is this a cause for worry?

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
7/26/2020 09:03:03 am

New numbness that develops after trauma should be investigated if it does not rapidly improve. From your description- I would be more concerned about an injury to your back as opposed to an injury to your knee replacement. Either way- if not improving, it should be evaluated by an orthopedic surgeon.

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CAROL S LUTZ
7/22/2020 08:06:34 am

I understand the numbness issue now. Thank you for the enlightenment. However I am having pain down the outside of my knee that radiates towards the front or shin area. With some motions the pain increases and makes my leg feel unstable. Should I go see my surgeon about this?

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
7/26/2020 08:57:51 am

Pain is common while rehabilitating a knee replacement. You do not indicate how recently your knee was replaced. It is not normal to experience ongoing or worsening pain, and certainly not instability. If this is happening, then yes, I would recommend discussing this with your surgeon.

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Wendi Kiss
3/10/2021 04:29:51 pm

I am 3.5 months post op. At 9 weeks i was able to walk around bl9ck with walking poles.. my range was better than expected. ALOT OF WORK AND TEARS. I have had much swelling still. The past week now i have sharp pain where the lateral numb spot is that shoots acroos my knee and also into my shin. This started after trying to do squats the first time and now its diddicult to weight bare. I have gone back to basic range excercises the past week. Very swollen. Went to my surgeon but only get students. He said my knee felt stable and just coast for awhile. No strenghthening excercises. They also did blood work to rule out infection. This is very disheartening as I cant walk anywhere now. And it doesnt feel any different no matter what i do. Help?

Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
3/12/2021 02:11:59 pm

@Wendi Kiss if you are not able to bear weight at 3.5 months postop, you need x-rays, and perhaps an MRI to rule out stress fracture. Ruling out infection is important as well. Beyond this, I think you need to see your surgeon or get a second opinion. What you report is not typical.

Sharon
7/29/2020 01:50:44 am

I rarely, very rarely comment on all the pre/post procedure info I research online but I want to thank you for your clear and concise explanation for my post tkr numbness. My surgeon was excellent, my pt has raved about his skill with my recovery. But all of the info I have found to explain my numbness (although all say it is normal) didn’t explain the why. Thank you for the simple diagram. Simple but clear. My surgeon did a fantastic job fitting my replacement, pretty much no “pain” except for week 2 due to a lupus flair and forgetting my pain meds :( But the numbness was my concern. Keep posting please. I have read your other posts and they were also helpful especially the range of motion stretching. Behind the chair was a good one! At 122degrees at 7 weeks but striving for 130. Hope this is not unreasonable.

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
8/24/2020 08:48:28 pm

I am glad you find this website helpful. Looks like you are rehabilitating your knee replacement quite well. I hope by this point you have achieved your goal of 130 degrees flexion.

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James link
9/8/2020 07:29:39 pm

I would like to thank you for your explanation the numbness too.I too am happy to be pain free the numbness is just a small thing not to worry e

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Terry
8/9/2020 11:53:30 pm

I'm 1 year in having my tkr and I still have numbness but I can deal with that Thanks for the helpful information my problem is that I have been to pt did all the exercises and my knee still not to a full bend and I still deal with some pain as well please tell me what's the next step my doctor says it's because of keloid skin tissue but I'm thinking it could be something else

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
8/14/2020 05:48:27 am

The majority of patients are not able to "fully flex" their knee following knee replacement. This is not typically due to the prosthesis or their surgeon, but by their ability to rehabilitate. Throughout this website, I describe why rehabilitation is challenging, and I provide guidance to help facilitate an optimal rehabilitation course.

The goal with total knee rehabilitation should be functional range of motion, as opposed to "full" range of motion. This means that your knee range of motion allows you to do almost anything you'd like to do, not that you can touch your heel to your buttocks.

I am unable to properly answer your question beyond this, as I need more information. While it is our goal, it is not typical for a total knee replacement to feel like a "normal" knee that never had arthritis and never had surgery.

For further guidance, I would need to know how much pain we are talking about, how often it happens, where exactly the pain is, and what activities it is associated with. There are a variety of explanations for ongoing pain after knee replacement surgery based on the answers to these questions.

Further investigation is sometimes required, including: x-rays, blood work, MRI, and sometimes nuclear medicine (bone scan).

It is also important to rule out referred pain from elsewhere. Sometimes a hip or back problem can present as knee pain.

As you can see, recommending the appropriate solution really depends on many factors. The best bet would be to discuss this with your surgeon.

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Jeanne
8/15/2020 10:37:14 pm

I had a TKR 10 months ago @age 59. My knee is still numb over quite a large area on the lateral part of my knee. The knee is warm to the touch constantly. I was unable to tolerate any pain medication, so recovery and rehab has been difficult, but I continue to do everything I have been instructed to do. The pain starts on the lateral part of my knee and travels down to my ankle where there is swelling above my ankle ( like a large egg). I’m concerned it’s been going on for so long and nothing is changing. My surgeon has stated the X-ray of the prosthetic looks fine, but is not concerned with all the other issues. Between June and July my PCP gave me two shots of cortisone in my knee for pain...no results. I have since gone back to a different PT in the hopes that I will have some relief with a new set of eyes. Could this be nerve damage? My lower back around L4 has been painful also since the surgery. I would appreciate any advice or direction you can offer. I’m feeling discouraged for I thought these issues would have lessened by now. With gratitude and appreciation.

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
8/24/2020 08:52:32 pm

Your history is definitely suggestive of an L4-L5 radiculopathy. This would cause radiating pain from your back down to your ankle. While it would not cause your ankle to swell, it would be consistent with getting no relief from a knee cortisone injection. While it is impossible for me to say for sure, perhaps further evaluation of your back using an MRI scan would be appropriate at this point.

As explained in the article above, numbness lateral to the incision is normal and is an expected finding after surgery.

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richard kovalchick link
3/14/2022 07:07:42 pm

I have been recovering from a left TKR which is 11 months now. I have the exact same symptoms that you have described. I even have ankle pain where I have to wear an elastic sock as an ankle brace. My range is good I still have slight swelling on the outside of the knee cap about the size of a quarter. The numbness runs from my knee down to the outside of my outer ankle. Riding my bike seems to help along with stretching. I live in Michigan and noticed the cold Winter weather made the knee have more discomfort. I have a massage therapist that has worked wonders on keeping me sane! Lol.. hopefully with the warmer weather I’m praying and hoping more activity will help my new knee.. good luck to everyone in their recovery… Richard 😊👍🏼

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
4/9/2022 07:22:47 pm

Do be clear, I am not suggesting that numbness running from your knee to your ankle is normal after knee replacement. Generally this is only a small patch just lateral to the incision.

If you are having numbness running all the way down to your ankle, your surgeon should examine your peroneal nerve and your lumbar spine. This is not a normal occurrence following knee replacement surgery.

Lisa Lefevre
8/21/2020 03:07:06 pm

I am 5 weeks out of my surgery. I haven't been going to rehab three times a week working hard I am stretching very well pain was going away but all of a sudden I got this severe pain on the side of my knee left side and my therapist at rehab said it probably was my nerves growing back what truth .

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
8/24/2020 08:46:05 pm

This is not a typical experience. Nerves do not suddenly "grow back." If they are going to recover, this is a gradual process. You do not mention which knee you had replaced, and therefore I do not know what the "left" side refers to. The typical numb patch is on the outside or lateral to the incision. While pain is not unusual during total knee rehabilitation, this is generally not considered sudden, or sharp. Any sharp pain that happens suddenly around a knee replacement, and does not rapidly resolve, should be evaluated by your surgeon.

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Gina Mars
8/22/2020 01:24:37 pm

Hi, I have a question, I’m 3 years out of a partial inner knee replacement right knee. I tore the meniscus in my inner left knee a few months ago. I’m getting it fixed Monday. However I have developed terrible pain on the outer right knee where it gets numb. It is painful most of the time and it’s a searing pain. Sometimes goes away after resting for hours. The doctor says it’s probably the it band from overcompensating. It’s now starting on my outer right knee. What advice can you offer. I’m miserable

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
8/24/2020 09:05:43 pm

While it could definitely be your iliotibial band (IT band), it is also possible to develop arthritis in the outside compartment of your knee when the medial compartment has undergone partial replacement. Standing X-rays would reveal this. If there is not a conclusive finding on x-ray, and your pain remains severe, I would then recommend an MRI scan with MARS sequencing. This is a metal artifact reducing technique that coincidentally shares your name. A lateral meniscal tear would also be a diagnosis to consider and would be seen on this MRI study.

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Lynnett Ivy
8/29/2020 02:26:35 pm

On June 2, 2020
I had a partial knee replacement [Medial side], torn meniscus, knee cap was not in the correct location and some pretty bad arthritis buildup behind the knee cap. I have been continuing rehab on my own, it helps with the stiffness and swelling I still experience. My doctor said not to worry if I can't bend my knee beyond 90 degrees ever, well I'm not one to except limitations and I can actually bend my knee to the point the back of my calf almost touches my thigh. Having said all that..... I want to try squatting and actually getting down on my knee, is that feasible and should I be able to do that by now?
One more thing...... I have the numbness on the outside of knee and I can live with it and I understand why the numbness exists, but why would I have the scar of a person who had a total knee replacement for a partial replacement?
Just curious.....Thank you

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
9/3/2020 05:11:34 pm

It is definitely feasible to squat and/or kneel. Some patients do not like how it feels, but there is minimal risk in doing so.

The incision required for partial knee replacement is generally slightly smaller than that used for total knee replacement, but, particularly if your surgeon tried to balance your patellar tracking, it sounds like a longer incision was required. There is absolutely no harm that results from a longer incision. Wounds do not heal like a zipper, but from side to side. A tiny incision may require the skin to be stretched more aggressively, which is really not optimal for wound healing. Don't worry about your incision length, I am sure your surgeon used only what was required.

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Chris Frederick
8/31/2020 10:29:46 am

I had a total knee replacement done on my right knee 3 weeks ago which is healing quite nicely. Thank you for the explanation of the numbness I am experiencing on the outside of the incision. However, on the inside of the incision, from about the bottom of the knee cap to the bottom of the scar, even the lightest touch to the skin produces excruciating pain, like a burning sensation. This pain is only on the skin and only in this localized area on the inside of the scar. In bed, just a sheet touching this area results in horrible pain. As an experiment, I gently rubbed lidocaine on this area, and the pain disappeared, but of course, came back when the lidoncaine wore off. Have you seen this before, or do you have any idea what could be causing this?

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
9/3/2020 04:50:55 pm

The surgical approach usually is on the medial side of the patella (kneecap). More soft tissue stripping along the medial aspect of the proximal tibia is also necessary in many knees (particularly when correcting a varus (bow-legged) knee. This is probably why the inside aspect of your knee is more sensitive right now. If there is increasing redness, or increasing swelling, your surgeon needs to take a look, otherwise, I would expect this sensitivity to diminish with time.

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Cathey Duplissey link
9/7/2020 12:17:15 pm

I had a TKR a year and a half ago. I had to have a clean out and plastic component replaced a month after initial surgery due to infection. My question has to do with my scar. Above my knee looks like a big chunk of flesh was removed. It's really dented in. Is this to be expected due to reopening of the knee?

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
9/13/2020 10:17:39 am

I would not consider this "normal." But, with the context you provided (infection requiring another surgery) it is certainly not unreasonable. It sounds like some tissue was removed (excised/debrided) at the time of your subsequent surgery. Any infected tissue must not be left behind. This may explain the "dent."

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Cathey Duplissey
9/13/2020 10:55:46 am

Thank you for responding to my question. That makes sense.

Elle Gee
6/12/2021 01:06:54 pm

I have the same issue- a very large (I can put the end of my thumb in) dent just above my knee cap on my right leg after TKR (8 months out), and I had no infection. What causes this, and should I see my ortho? Also, I have a large (and growing) hard knot/band across my knee just below the knee cap that is more pronounced when I bend it (so pronounced it looks a bit like an elongated egg). My PA and ortho say it’s just scar tissue and typical, but my PT says she’s never seen anything like it nor have any other PTs I’ve asked (my family has PTs). I worry that this will keep me from having full extension and from kneeling. It’s very sensitive to pressure. Thank you!

Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
6/23/2021 08:58:04 pm

@Elle Gee

This could be some atrophy of the adipose tissue secondary to retraction during surgery. This tissue also often does not heal solidly together after the surgical approach as adipose tissue does not have a great blood supply. Scar tissue beneath and to the sides of the patella (knee cap) is common and normal. It should not interfere with your function as long as you regain adequate range of motion. Many adults do not prefer kneeling on their knees (normal or replaced knees) as it is uncomfortable. This would be independent of this scar tissue. Beyond this, I would recommend you ask your surgeon for further advice since it is impossible for me to examine your knee via the internet.

Shawn R Commons link
9/17/2020 11:21:44 pm

I had total knee replacement surgery to left knee on August 28th of this year. I guess recovery is going well but kinda of upset that I was not informed about this permanent nerve damage causing the numb and uncomfortable feeling of the knee. Having problems getting comfortable to go to sleep. I am supposed to have same procedure on right knee on October 20th. Not sure I will go through with it due to not wanting the same feeling in both knees. I questioned the Surgeon on this issue at my post op appointment today as I read up on this 2 days ago. Asked why not informed or given any reading material on this prior. Response was not a quality of life issue so they don't inform there patients prior or after surgery unless asked. If this does not improve some I will wish i had not done this and just kept getting injections and sucked it up. My age is 52.

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
9/20/2020 02:42:16 pm

Most surgeons don't even discuss this numbness as it is unavoidable and tends not to bother patients very much, if at all.

I created this post simply to help patients understand anatomically why they experience numbness in this pattern, and also why it is not a complication of surgery, but a necessary part of undergoing knee replacement surgery (or any other open knee surgery that requires a longitudinal anterior incision).

This is a very new situation for you, having just had knee replacement surgery a couple of weeks ago. It is extremely rare for a patient to be bothered significantly by this issue long-term. I would recommend focusing on properly rehabilitating your knee replacement. The strange sensation you are acutely aware of right now will gradually become more and more normal to you with time. If your knee arthritis was severe enough to undergo knee replacement surgery, once well rehabilitated, and your arthritis symptoms have resolved, I think you will be thrilled with your improved quality of life.

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Debra Rigamonti link
9/24/2020 10:14:48 am

How long is the numbness expected to last. Mine has been there for 6 months now. Will it ever go away?

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
9/24/2020 07:02:24 pm

While the numbness is permanent, and an unavoidable aspect of knee replacement surgery (and any other knee operation that involves an anterior longitudinal incision), your awareness of this will decrease significantly as time goes on. I recommend gently touching the numb patch with your fingers, and with different textures while looking at the area. Your brain will gradually consider this strange feeling relatively normal again. While it can be surprising to some patients early after surgery, long-term it rarely presents much of an issue. The vast majority of patients consider this a small trade-off in return for the dramatically improved quality of life that follows knee replacement surgery.

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Enid M. Natkins
10/23/2020 10:25:51 am

Just to commiserate with you, it will be a year since my right knee total replacement and I still have a lot of numbness on the outside of the right side of my knee. The knee definitely doesn't feel like a normal knee. I do have less pain than I used to have and going up and down stairs gives me no pain as it did before.

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Debbie Anderson
9/28/2020 07:32:56 pm

I would also like to thank you for the informative explanation of the numbness experienced after TKR. I am 5 weeks out from a right knee replacement. PT going very well, but wanted to ask why I might be experiencing a tight band feeling over my entire knee area. It is much more annoying than the numbness on the outside of my knee. Hoping it goes away soon. Thanks in advance for any explanation.

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
9/28/2020 09:23:18 pm

I am glad you found this helpful. Rather than go into great detail about knee stiffness, I will direct you to another page in this website where I explain why knees feel stiff after knee replacement surgery, and how to successfully rehabilitate.

https://www.yourorthomd.com/orthopedic-knowledge/stiff-total-knee

What you are experiencing is normal. It will improve with time. It is crucial that you stretch consistently and for long periods of time.

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David kolosky
10/29/2020 11:41:53 am

I had both knees replaced August 25th 2020 experience the same numbness I have 125 degree Bend still experiencing trouble sleeping after reading your articles I think I'm very happy with my results having both knees done was how can I say very difficult for the first 2 months thank you so much for the information I feel a lot better

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mdm Zana
11/3/2020 10:20:28 pm

Wow! i got so much useful info.from yr write up n the Q&A...i m 58 n had Tkr on my right knee on oct9th. recently. my knee seems to be doing alright post op n I ve been going for rehab frequently..However i m suffering drop foot post op n after a nerve study..the finding was a complete denervation of a branch of the peroneal nerve ..how common is this complication n if it can be repaired by a neurosurgeon for me to gain back dorsi flexion of my right foot..tq

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
11/8/2020 08:03:33 pm

Thankfully this is an uncommon complication. The risk is highest when a patient presents with a valgus knee (knock-kneed) with a flexion contracture (inability to fully extend) before surgery. When these deformities are corrected during surgery, this nerve will be stretched. In the vast majority of cases, the nerve can withstand this correction. While I am not sure if this was the case with your knee, it nonetheless happened. There is a chance of spontaneous recovery. Unless the nerve was actually severed (which is extraordinarily rare) I doubt a neurosurgeon can "repair" the nerve. There is a chance it could be decompressed (like we do for carpal tunnel syndrome). There is a small brace that can be used inside shoewear in cases of persistent foot drop that can help minimize any functional impairment.

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Elaine McBane
11/28/2020 05:04:30 pm

I retain fluid at any time..Right leg TKR and the outside of my knee is swelling and pains at night...(Oct 28). hot..is this normal

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
12/7/2020 08:24:46 pm

At a month or so from surgery- it is normal for your knee to feel warm and swollen. Some pain is also to be expected. If you have significant fluid retention, worsening pain and/or redness- it should be evaluated by your surgeon.

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Elaine McBane
2/5/2021 09:50:13 am

HI
I had left leg done on Jan 13, 2021 and just healing...
right leg is getting leg numb on the side ...
? Why is the history that most patients gain weight after surgery..
What exercise to do to keep the muscles tight?
Is walking one of the best exercises to do for weight and keeping muscles around knee firm?
How many miles is ok for walking each day?

Terry Baker link
11/29/2020 04:13:00 pm

I am 5 week post ops to left knee total replacement and I was wondering is it normal for me to experience the following.
-Numbness on the left and just above the knee
-A tightness of the left side of the knee especially when I wake up in the morning and after the completion of physical therapy.
- Sharp pain from time to time over my left knee cap area and quad muscle area
- This may sound strange but every now and then it seems like I can feel a drip on the inside of my left thigh. Is this possible or just my imagination.
- How long can I expect both this numbness and stiffness to last. Just want to know what to expect.
- Why does it seem like I lack energy and appear to be tired all the time especially after physical therapy and walking for 30 minutes

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
12/7/2020 08:40:28 pm

Tightness, pain and swelling are normal early after knee replacement.

Numbness lateral to the knee incision is normal and permanent. It will become less prominent with time.

Your body has been through a stressful experience mentally and physically. Your energy requirement increases when healing. Stay well nourished and well rested. Your energy level will improve with time.

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Maureen Golupski
12/3/2020 09:07:40 am

I am 55 yes old and had double knee replacement October 2, 2020. I was up walking the same day four times. I have to say the hardest part about the double knee replacement was the inability to sleep from five weeks to 9 weeks out. I had to ask for a sleep aid because of the pain of healing and restless legs had me up every half an hour to an hour every night. I am in my ninth week now and I’m starting to feel more rested, confident and experiencing less jolting pain.

Glad I did both at the same time though! A little numbness around incisions but becoming less and less each day.

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
12/7/2020 08:52:34 pm

Glad to hear you are doing well! Keep up the good work. I would expect you to experience ongoing improvement for many months yet to come.

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Jo Ann Ennis
12/19/2020 04:29:10 pm

I had three 2 years ago. Have the numbness but also still have sharp pains down my shin bone. I notice this more at night because the pain wakes me up. Would this be still related to tkr?

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
12/22/2020 11:14:26 pm

While anything is possible, shin pain is not a typical complaint following knee replacement, particularly years later. This should probably be evaluated by your orthopedic surgeon. The differential diagnosis would include stress reaction/stress fracture/lumbar radiculopathy (pinched nerve).

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LONNIE GUNDERSON
1/7/2021 07:42:09 am

I had total knee replacement 18 months ago, i still get swollen on a daily basis and i am numb all around the outside of my knee, is this normal? Im 60 years old, and had two knee scopes before full knee replacement ( work comp case) and what degree would you normally rate i should be at percentage wise for disability? i live in wisconsin. Thanks

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
1/7/2021 08:34:14 pm

As explained in this preceding article, numbness lateral to the knee incision is totally normal and unavoidable. If Wisconsin worker's compensation guidelines are similar to those in New York, a typical, well rehabilitated knee replacement results in a 35-50% loss of use of the leg due to removal of bone, and less than normal range of motion at the knee. This would be the case even with a well-rehabilitated, pain-free knee replacement.

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Lillian C.
2/4/2021 10:51:02 pm

I have had a replacement surgery done on my right knee since sept. 2020.
I am still having numbness on the right side of my knee my right knee that is. now my problem is i am having stiffness sometimes it feels like the incision wants to rip open. I can bend the joint when I walk but after walking it becomes so stiff

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
2/4/2021 11:06:04 pm

As I explained, numbness lateral to the incision is normal and expected. This is not the cause of your stiffness. Stiffness is most commonly a result of suboptimal rehabilitation. Check out my other articles explaining how I recommend stretching. If you are losing ground, I recommend you schedule a follow-up visit with your surgeon. You are far enough out from surgery at this point that I would expect you to be feeling quite well.

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Brian Webster
2/14/2021 06:03:51 am

My replacement knee joints are now 15 years old & have served me great for long walks & cycling Im now 81 & still fit I eat healthly dont drink alcohol never smoked now I cant walk far both joints are stiff & my legs go numb from my knee to my foot any advise please

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
2/14/2021 10:34:21 am

I would recommend having your orthopedic surgeon check out your back. Numbness down your legs when walking or standing typically is due to nerves being pinched in your lumbar spine.

If your knees are not functioning normally, or have deteriorated, you should also get a new set of x-rays to make sure they are not wearing out. If this is occurring, it will not result in numbness, but could cause stiffness and/or pain.

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Creena Messer
3/20/2021 07:37:31 pm

Hi!
I had a partial right knee replacement almost a month ago. Is it normal to have what I can only describe as like a fluttering or wiggly worm like feeling about 2 inches below my knee on the outside? It is painful and uncomfortable...shooting pains still happen as well. Your information i have read has been i formative and appreciated!

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
3/28/2021 11:30:43 am

As described in the article above, this is not unexpected. This will gradually improve with time, but will always like be a bit numb in that area.

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Sandra Tegge
3/27/2021 02:32:22 pm

I had BTKR more than 13 years ago. I have had numbness on the lateral side of both knees as expected. Over the past several months I have noticed the numbness extending approximately 4 inches above my left knee both on the lateral and anterior sides. I have not noticed a change in my ROM. Is this something I should be concerned about?

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
3/28/2021 11:14:04 am

There is no anatomic reason that your numb patch would expand over time. If concerned, your surgeon should check this out for you. My first impression is that it could be coming from your back.

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Kathy
5/28/2021 01:15:11 am

I had TNR done 3 weeks ago and a big golf ball sized lump came up on the lateral side (along with the numb patch). When I went for my first post op I showed the surgeon and he said they did a lateral release to straighten my leg and thus swelling will go down. A week later that lump was still very swollen as well as now red and warm. I am now on an antibiotic as precaution but he still says the swelling will go down. It is very hard to do PT as my knee is do right from this extra swelling. Have you heard of anything like this? I can’t find anything online and am trying hard to trust my surgeon.
Thanks.

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
6/23/2021 10:36:35 pm

A lateral release means the soft tissues (retinaculum) on the outside of your knee (between your patella and femur) were cut to help your patella track properly. Blood/fluid that normal would have accumulated inside your knee joint was then able to move through that defect to the area just below your skin. That was the swelling. Ice and anti-inflammatory medication should help in addition to time. Try your best to push through PT and a home stretching regimen to avoid stiffness. This should not be a long-term problem.

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Kathy Rexrode
6/24/2021 11:59:07 am

Thank you for the reply. Since this post - now 7 weeks out - in the same area where the release happened the swelling has come down some but not completely but I’m having some “locking” and pain when I bend the knee and then try to bring it back down flat. Do you think the swelling and tissue that was cut might be getting stuck in the joint and causing the locking and pain? I go back for recheck in 2 more months.
Thanks
Kathy

Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
6/28/2021 12:45:09 pm

I doubt the lateral release is allowing tissue to get caught in your knee. There is not generally tissue floating around after this. It does sound like your surgeon had some difficulty getting your patella to track properly, this is why the release was necessary. For now, it is probably just part of the healing process. There is tension on the lateral tissues that is worse in flexion, this could then feel a bit worse after deep flexion stretching. I would keep stretching, using ice on the sore areas, and count on your body to continue healing for many more months.

Ajay
6/1/2021 08:56:11 am

Very well explained. My mother-in-law has been operated 8 weeks back. She is having numbness, pain and tightness of skin of toe and nearby area. Knee pain and movement is ok. But this pain in right toe is creating the problem. Can nerve for toe be pinched during knee replacement surgery? What is solution?

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
6/23/2021 10:18:33 pm

It is very unlikely that a toe nerve would be injured during knee replacement surgery. I recommend follow-up with her surgeon for further evaluation.

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Patricia Goellner
6/3/2021 10:16:05 pm

Had tkr 6 months ago . Numbness is my only side effect. I have done yoga for 25 yrs but finding I'm falling out of poses. Very frustrating. Any suggestiins?

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
6/23/2021 09:07:56 pm

I don't understand your question. Are you fatiguing early so you can not hold a pose? Are you having pain or inadequate range of motion that limits your ability to maintain a pose? A bit more information would help me to help you.

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Barb Furr
6/24/2021 06:13:30 pm

It’s been almost 17 months since my TKR. I had to go on Disability Retirement since I do not have full functionality of my knee (I was a Corrections Nurse). I have a lot of stiffness & IT band pain. Is there anything that can be done?

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
6/28/2021 12:40:32 pm

This is not a typical outcome following knee replacement surgery. I recommend followup with your surgeon for examination/x-rays/labs to help understand why you have an inferior result.

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Leslie
8/20/2021 09:58:58 am

Thanks for this. Your explanation is helpful and comforting.

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Lesley Hughes
8/28/2021 08:23:47 pm

I’ve had 4 operations meniscus repair, osteotomy ,plate removal and a new knee 12th July 2021In one leg in 6 years . 7 weeks after op now after having cellulitis and my wound taking 6 weeks to heal . Now in a lot of pain but still rigorously following my physio therapy and my knee is still very swollen. My consultant has said it will be painful for some time . Feeling pretty low at the moment. Just want reassurance to give me motivation to keep going

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
9/1/2021 03:22:57 am

Having undergone multiple prior operations does increase the chance of an infection following knee replacement surgery. It is fairly common to still experience pain and swelling at this stage following surgery, but if pain and swelling remain significant, it is important to rule out ongoing infection. Assuming there is no infection, I agree with your surgeon, that pain and swelling should gradually diminish for up to an entire year following surgery. It is crucial to regain adequate range of motion in your knee by stretching on a daily basis. Best of luck to you!

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Diana Walters
9/8/2021 06:33:02 am

Thanks so much for the information! As an OB RN and former ORRN, I had no idea how to take care of myself after my partial knee replacement. I had it done as an outpatient on 9/7/21 as a 0700 case and was home by 1600.

At 0300 this morning I realized I have a naval orange sized numbness on the lateral aspect of my knee. Google led me to your article and I am thankful!

I may actually be able to sleep and not dream about the "nurse/dr curse"!

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Rosemary Lucas link
9/13/2021 10:05:55 pm

My knee replacement was done 3 years ago. I have the numbness on my outer right knee that hasn't went away yet. I went to a nerve doctor for the nerve test. I had surgery with the needle in my spine she thought it was because I have spinal stenosis in my back she thought the numbness was coming from there. But no relief. So what do I do now.

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
10/5/2021 03:43:53 pm

Numbness on the outside of your knee is normal, and expected following total knee replacement. It will always be present. It does not require any further evaluation or treatment.

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Joann saye link
9/17/2021 02:25:38 pm

helpful site. I too didn't realize how painful the recovery was going to be and I am only 3 weeks in. I am not sure when to go onto a cane instead of the walker. I know everyone is different but an estimated expectancy would be helpful.thanks .

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
10/5/2021 03:37:40 pm

Usually your physical therapist can help you decide when it is safe to discontinue assistive devices. It is not appropriate for me to arbitrarily tell you when to do so, since there is so much individual variation. I will say many patient no longer require a walker by 2 weeks from surgery and very few patient still use a cane by 6 weeks. Remember- everyone is different, with unique balance, strength, coordination, and confidence. This is not a race. The most important thing is to avoid falling.

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Chrissy Lesdow
9/22/2021 12:51:04 pm

It has been 9 months since my TKR I still have numbness on the outer knee. My question is instead of the numbness patch getting smaller it’s seems to be getting larger and now traveling down below the knee to the outer shin area is this normal.? It’s really uncomfortable weather standing or sitting

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
10/5/2021 03:30:28 pm

It is not typical for the normal "numb patch" to expand with time. Usually it becomes less obvious as your brain "gets used to it."

If your numbness extends down you lateral leg, it could indicate a pinched nerve in your back. It may be work discussing this with your surgeon.

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Liz Wiederhold
9/28/2021 10:02:28 am

I am 4 weeks post-op on TKR right knee. I have the lateral numbness as described. But, I have medial numbness and odd sensitivity down the inside of leg from about the mid knee area to my ankle. Sensations are wacky there. While numb in some ways, the whole area is also hypersensitive to touch by a blanket or clothing and prickles or almost feels burning to touch. The saphenous nerve seems likely based on one of your earlier answers. If ortho surgeon is disinterested in discussing, what type of doc do I consult? This is not a liveable scenario long term.

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Chirstopher Gorczynski, MD link
10/5/2021 03:27:51 pm

This is not the normal numbness I describe above. I agree that it sounds like your saphenous nerve has been irritated. I think the best bet is to have a physical therapist help you with desensitization therapy. Maybe your surgeon can prescribe this treatment for you?

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Steve Brockenshaw
10/5/2021 04:10:33 pm

Hi,

I'm bow legged and had a uni tibial side replacement 2 weeks ago.
Pre op, most pain was lateral nerve pain.
Is this because its being stretched due to the gapping?
If so, now that realignment of knee fixed how quickly should lateral nerve pain repair?

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
10/5/2021 08:35:24 pm

Most unicondylar replacements are of the medial (inside) part of the knee. They involve replacing both the femoral and tibial joint surfaces. Your bowleggedness suggests this was the case for you. It is definitely possible that the lateral pain you were experiencing was due to stretch of the soft tissues. Assuming there was some correction of the bowleggedness during your surgery, I would expect the lateral sided pain to gradually resolve over the next 6-12 weeks or so. While all pain is transmitted by nerve fibers, and thus all pain is really "nerve pain," Arthritis pain can result from an effusion (excess fluid in the joint) that stretches the joint capsule, synovitis (inflammation of the joint lining), bone bruising due to inadequate cushioning, or soft tissue overload (in your case presumably overstretching the lateral soft tissues). In general, I hesitate to offer unicondylar replacement to patients who do not point directly to the arthritic compartment as the site of their pain, as I feel outcomes are most predictable when pain emanates from the arthritic compartment that is going to be resurfaced.

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Jim
11/15/2021 06:31:37 pm

I’m just shy of 3 weeks from recovering from TKR. I only took pain meds for the first 4 days. The excruciating pain of standing up and having all the blood rush to veins is gone after 12 days. The stiffness and tight quads are way better. I’m at 2 degrees from straight and at 105 degrees bent. Not sure what goal should be as my other knee also needing to be replaced can only go to 122 degrees. I can walk without cane around the house but anything with distance like over 20 yards or so I feel safer with cane.
I want to thank you for the explanation and diagram of nerve chart. The numbing tingling sensation is what is bothering me most and does not allow me to sleep more than 3 hours before I have to get up walk around and ice. I’m saddened to hear that that feeling can potentially stay with me forever. What I’m hoping to hear is that after another week or two it will get to the point where I can get a good nights sleep. Thanks again this forum is excellent!

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
12/16/2021 04:23:38 pm

While the numbness is likely to persist, it is very rare for patients to care much about it long-term. It is probably more concerning right now since it is new. As your brain gradually adjusts to this it will become the new normal and much less distracting. To a certain extent, I believe other nerves may be somewhat "unregulated" meaning the degree of numbness may improve a bit.

As far as motion is concerned, you should strive to regain as much as possible. There is no reason you need to accept 122 degrees of flexion just because your other knee stops there. That being said, 122 degrees is plenty of motion for most desired activities following knee replacement surgery. Function is what really matters. A number is just a number- consider it a guide.

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Jo
12/21/2021 12:28:32 am

I am 5 months post TKR on right knee. Thank you for explaining numbness on outside of knee. My issue I'm concerned about is that on the right side of the bottom of my right foot is numb all the way up to the little toe. Do you think this is permenate nerve damage?

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
12/29/2021 08:49:00 am

Foot numbness is very unlikely to come from your knee. I would encourage investigation into a pinched nerve in your back. (Lumbar radiculopathy) This is a common and potentially reversible condition.

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Elizabeth link
12/21/2021 02:27:15 pm

I am just glad I found your site, I had total knee replacement September 15,2021, I was going bonkers not understanding these odd feelings in and around my knee and leg. After reading all the comments I feel better, I do have an appointment after Christmas to see a spine doctor because I cannot sit long or walk a lot without that whole leg feeling numb and uncomfortable. I also wish the doctors prepare patients for this to be like this always because some people have a hard time adjusting to this new feeling of weirdness after TKR. Being more upfront would help a lot because I went from being angry having this surgery, to hating my new knee, to be alittle depressed, so I am glad I found and read your site.

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Brownell
1/11/2022 11:08:43 pm

I had a TKR 11-5-21. I still have a lot of numbness on the outside and around the knee. I have never had any pain and have great range bend. I have this popping on the outside of my knee. You can feel it and hear it? That is so annoying. The numbness is really bothering me. How long will this last and what would the popping be!

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
1/22/2022 01:39:57 pm

The numbness is likely to be permanent. Popping is not normal following knee replacement surgery, and should be evaluated in your surgeon's office.

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Anoma
1/12/2022 02:11:23 pm

This information is very useful to cope with different stages of TKR.This my sixth month after surgery. I have numbness in the thigh on the operated knee. This happens after standing after a long time . This seems to be better after about 5 mts after siiting down. I explained this to an orthopedic surgeon and he said the numbness should never happen in the thigh and advised me to see my GP. Iam very confused reading all the reviews. Thank you so much for your valuable advice. Deeply apprecIated..


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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
1/22/2022 01:22:34 pm

A numb patch on the lateral side of the incision is totally normal. Thigh numbness is not normal. Numbness that occurs when standing that improves when sitting usually indicates the problem is emanating from your lumbar spine, specifically lumbar stenosis. This can be treated with PT, injections, and sometimes surgery as a last resort.

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Andrea Wine Cansfield
2/18/2022 06:33:24 am

I am so thankful I found this discussion! I am 5 weeks post-op and though I seldom have severe pain now, my knee swells a lot after my PT sessions and becomes achey and can throb. I am drinking a lot of water, getting up every hour to move, icing 3-4 times a day, and doing my exercises every day. My surgeon told me I’d be back to work in 3-6 weeks since I’m such a healthy person. However, I have been panicking because there is no way I can go back to my job in education next week based on my daily tasks. I spoke with my physical therapist yesterday and she was shocked the surgeon told me that. She calmed my fears and said they wouldn’t be clearing me. The surgeon should’ve told me approximately 12 weeks. Having the correct expectations for recovery are huge - I’ve gone from feeling a failure and very sad and worried to “I’ve got this!”

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
2/26/2022 03:00:22 pm

Swelling at this stage is generally normal. It is also normal to experience some degree of discomfort, sometimes for up to 3 months or more following surgery. The trend should be steadily downward, however. It sounds like you are recovering at a normal pace.

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Rosemary Obrien
3/13/2022 07:55:55 pm

Question. Years after total knee replacement both knees, the numbness is getting worse. Any on-site as to what May be the cause?

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
4/9/2022 07:19:28 pm

I would not expect the numbness I describe (lateral to the knee incision) to get worse over time. It usually improves somewhat. If you are having numbness down into your legs, I would recommend you have a doctor check out your lumbar spine for central canal or neuroforaminal stenosis.

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David H
3/15/2022 05:02:20 pm

I appreciate the article and all the informative responses. I had a partial knee replacement over three years ago but the lateral numbness still drives me crazy. The skin is hypersensitive and feels like electric shock when touched.

The orthopedic team has suggested that I may be a good candidate for nerve ablation at this point. Since this hasn't come up in this post yet, I'd like to know your thoughts on the options for when skin hypersensitivity never goes away.

Thanks.

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Christopher Gorczynski, MD link
4/9/2022 07:27:43 pm

It is rare for a patient to be so bothered by this numb patch. I only wrote about it, so patients aren't surprised by it. Perhaps you should consider treatment by a pain management specialist. If they can localize the irritated nerve, perhaps they can ablate it using radio-frequency.

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Richard J. Coleman
3/26/2022 08:03:54 am

I had a TKR on my right knee 11 months ago, and I am mostly satisfied with the outcome except for a few things: I have numbness on the lateral side of my knee which I thought would go away, but after reading this now realize it will not. I was not told about this before surgery but it likely would not have changed my mind about having the surgery because I just wanted the pain gone. It is only annoying if I focus on it. I had some significant back pain for about four months which has now gone away. I have a strange popping or clicking sensation in the knee which I also understand is normal, but it seems to come and go so I have learned to just ignore it. The important thing is, other than that related to the surgery, my knee pain is completely gone. Is the outcome perfect and what I expected? Probably not, but I am still glad I had it done.

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